ࡱ> 8:9" xb( **"+4+++,2,,,Z-j-..0011>3L3P336667;;;;z>>>>>D?*C.CD^DFlF|IIIIJJKKKLBNFN*P.P2P>PRR>UBUFU^UUUYYHZ\Z[ [&[.[p\\@`bf hh"i4i5CJOJQJ CJOJQJ5>*CJOJQJ[. A!"#$%NEWTON AREA CYCLE GROUP - 10-02-4 The meeting was held in the Newton Abbot Football Club, Coach Road, Newton Abbot on the evening of Tuesday 10th February 2004. It opened at 7.35 p.m. and closed at 9.30 p.m. Ian Glendinning was in the ChaNEWTON AREA CYCLE GROUP - 10-02-4 The meeting was held in the Newton Abbot Football Club, Coach Road, Newton Abbot on the evening of Tuesday 10th February 2004. It opened at 7.35 p.m. and closed at 9.30 p.m. Ian Glendinning was in the Chair. Present were: - Ken Berry, Tom Buxton-Smith, Brian Dart, ,Jackie Brodie, Graham Brodie, John Hartley, Matthew Steele and Ken Robertson,. Apologies - There were apologies from Mike Jones and Nonee Bell Welcome: - The Chairman welcomed all present. Cycling on Prescription: - There is a meeting to be held on 26th February to progress this item. E-Mail:- This is still a problem and needs urgent resolution MS/GB/KR Some members of the group receive a message but no attachment. It is not known why this is. In the interim hard copies need to be sent to members. Planning for Cycling in the Newton Abbot Area:- Jackie Brodie had received a letter from Devon County Council that was generally positive in its attitude towards providing cycling facilities at the same time as any major projects are planned. Countywide Complaints Card: - This has still not reached fruition. Robin Bevis is to be asked for the current situation. KR Post meeting note - called him on 18-02-04 and he was out of the office all week - left a message with reception asking that he call back. When it is available it will need plenty of publicity DCC/ALL Newton Town Council sub-Committee Meetings : - Jackie Brodie expressed her disquiet at the way the NACG was not able to get its message across at these meetings. She had written two letters to the Town Clerk but as of the meeting had not had a reply. It was agreed that the Secretary should speak to Mr Tuck on behalf of the NACG and should explain the recent experiences with the Torbay Transportation Sub-Committee. KR Stover Canal Path across Jetty Marsh Nature Reserve: - Tony Watson had replied on behalf of Teignbridge District Council. He had had a meeting with the Local Ranger responsible for the area. Unfortunately he was unable to get agreement for the already unauthorised but regular passage of cyclists across the reserve to be formalised and allowed. The letter pointed out that when the Stover Canal Trust is set up then there could be an opportunity for improving access across the area for all users. John Hartley agreed to talk to the Local Ranger as he has a mutual interest and felt that a compromise was possible. JH Wolborough Church Path and Sherbourne Road: - Matthew Steele told the meeting that the necessary work had been completed and that cycling was permitted along these routes. It was suggested that some old signs (cycling prohibited) had not been removed and new ones (cycling/pedestrian shared on the Wolborough Church Path) put in their place. This will be checked. KR/MS Once sure it is 100% OK then publicity is needed. KR Safe Routes to School - Teign School: - There had been a meeting on Transport issue at the school on Thursday 5th February. It was agreed that the now scattered bike sheds across the site should be located near the Clifford Road Gate and that entrance should be the preferred ones for cyclists to use. There could be a funding issue with this. The inspection of the route to and from Sandygate identified work to ne done in the area of the Five Lanes Playing Filed. This needs to be fed into the local Village Cmmunity Travel Plan. MS It is noted that part of the route had had a bus shelter with concrete hard standing placed on the proposed route! Safe Routes to School -Decoy School: - Matthew Steele had looked at the possibility of a more direct route to the school from Milber and Aller. It needed 2 bridges to be built and he felt that the benefit would not be justified by the cost. Safe Routes to School -Knowles Hill School: - Chris Bittlestone had written to the head teacher but there was no feedback from this letter. The secretary had had an e-mail from a student, Alex Anyia-T and had invited her to attend the NACG meetings as she had an interest in providing better facilities for cyclists but with no success. An attempt will be made to involve a teacher that was present at earlier meetings, Louise Ashton JB NACG Web site: - The Travelwise Officer of DCC has agreed to meet the cost of the domain for 2004. Th 49.99 plus VAT will be paid and then reclaimed. GB It was agreed that the NACG site should be linked to other sites like DCC, Haldon Forset Cycling Group etc. The possibilities will be explored. GB Trains: - John Hartley detailed the various contacts he had made and intended to make. South West Trains - he will try again to contact Phil Dominey He was going to meetings on Friday 13th February with Wessex Trains and on Wednesday 18th February in Bristol with First Great Western. JH He had had a meeting with Torbay Council Officers and others relating to train travel in and out of the area. Trowbridge Station has an excellent cycle storage facility and should be copied by other stations. He will get details. JH Haldon: - There is an excellent off road track from the ridge near the top of Telegraph Hill down to Kenton. It is shown as St Andrew's Lane. The bridge across the A380 is due to commence in late 2004 and is an 8 month contract. This will open up many more routes for cyclists to enjoy. Cyclists without lights at night: - The local Police Traffic Management and Road Safety Officers had replied to the message and had contacted the respective District Council Safety Officers with a view to a programme to address the problem. It is not known what they are planning. They will be asked for a progress report. KR Whitpot Mill: - new and improved reflectors have been installed. Teign Estuary Partnership: - Ken Berry attended the last meeting and will continue to attend however little time was devoted to cycling issues. Due to landowner objections it is felt that 2007 is a realistic completion date for the path between Newton Abbot and Teignmouth. One plus point was that he met with a Bishopsteignton Councillor who is very much in favour of the cycle route and he will advise the group via Ken Berry of any relevant information. ir. Present were: - Ken Berry, Tom Buxton-Smith, Brian Dart, ,Jackie Brodie, Graham Brodie, John Hartley, Matthew Steele and Ken Robertson,. Apologies - There were apologies from Mike Jones and Nonee Bell Welcome: - The Chairman welcomed all present."#TU:;./I F G : $$"#TU:;./I F G : 3mnz?C5ssklx= 3mnz?C5sskl$ Cycling on Prescription: - There is a meeting to be held on 26th February to progress this item. E-Mail: - This is still a problem and needs urgent resolution MS/GB/KR Some members of the group receive a message but no attachment. It is not known why this is. In the interim hard copies need to be sent to members. Planning for Cycling in the Newton Abbot Area: - Jackie Brodie had received a letter from Devon County Council that was generally positive in its attitude towards providing cycling . A!"#$%NEWTON AREA CYCLE GROUP - 10-02-4 The meeting was held in the Newton Abbot Football Club, Coach Road, Newton Abbot on the evening of Tuesday 10th February 2004. It opened at 7.35 p.m. and closed at 9.30 p.m. Ian Glendinning was in the Chair. Present were: - Ken Berry, Tom Buxton-Smith, Brian Dart, ,Jackie Brodie, Graham Brodie, John Hartley, Matthew Steele and Ken Robertson,. Apologies - There were apologies from Mike Jones and Nonee Bell Welcome: - The Chairman welcomed all present.. A!"#$%NEWTON AREA CYCLE GROUP - 10-02-4 The meeting was held in the Newton Abbot Football Club, Coach Road, Newton Abbot on the evening of Tuesday 10th February 2004. It opened at 7.35 p.m. and closed at 9.30 p.m. Ian Glendinning was in the Chair. Present were: - Ken Berry, Tom Buxton-Smith, Brian Dart, ,Jackie Brodie, Graham Brodie, John Hartley, Matthew Steele and Ken Robertson,. Apologies - There were apologies from Mike Jones and Nonee Bell Welcome: - The Chairman welcomed all present. Cycling on Prescription: - There is a meeting to be held on 26th February to progress this item. E-Mail: - This is still a problem and needs urgent resolution MS/GB/KR Some members of the group receive a message but no attachment. It is not known why this is. In the interim hard copies need to be sent to members. Planning for Cycling in the Newton Abbot Area: - Jackie Brodie had received a letter from Devon County Council that was generally positive in its attitude towards providing cycling facilities at the same time as any major projects are planned. Countywide Complaints Card: - This has still not reached fruition. Robin Bevis is to be asked for the current situation. KR Post meeting note - called him on 18-02-04 and he was out of the office all week - left a message with reception asking that he call back. When it is available it will need plenty of publicity DCC/ALL Newton Town Council sub-Committee Meetings: - Jackie Brodie expressed her disquiet at thfacilities at the same time as any major projects are planned. Countywide Complaints Card: - This has still not reached fruition. Robin Bevis is to be asked for the current situation. KR Post meeting note - called him on 18-02-04 and he was out of the office all week - left a message with reception asking that he call back. When it is available it will need plenty of publicity DCC/ALL Newton Town Council sub-Committee Meetings: - Jackie Brodie expressed her disquiet at the way the NACG was not able to get its message across at these meetings. She had written two letters to the Town Clerk but as of the meeting had not had a reply. It was agreed that the Secretary should speak to Mr Tuck on behalf of the NACG and should explain the recent experiences with the Torbay Transportation Sub-Committee. KR Stover Canal Path across Jetty Marsh Nature Reserve: - Tony Watson had replied on behalf of Teignbridge District Council. He had had a meeting with the Local Ranger responsible for the area. Unfortunately he was unable to get agreement for the already unauthorised but regular passage of cyclists across the reserve to be formalised and allowed. The letter pointed out that when the Stover Canal Trust is set up then there could be an opportunity for improving access across the area for all users. John Hartley agreed to talk to the Local Ranger as he has a mutual interest and felt that a compromise was possible. JH Wolborough Church Path and Sherbourne Road: - Matthew Steele told the meeting that the necessary work had been completed and that cycling was permitted along these routes. It was suggested that some old signs (cycling prohibited) had not been removed and new ones (cycling/pedestrian shared on the Wolborough Church Path) put in their place. This will be checked. KR/MS Once sure it is 100% OK then publicity is needed. KR Safe Routes to School - Teign School: - There had been a meeting on Transport issue at the school on Thursday 5th February. It was agreed that the now scattered bike sheds across the site should be located near the Clifford Road Gate and that entrance should be the preferred ones for cyclists to use. There could be a funding issue with this. The inspection of the route to and from Sandygate identified work to be done in the area of the Five Lanes Playing Filed. This needs to be fed into the local Village Cmmunity Travel Plan. MS It is noted that part of the route had had a bus shelter with concrete hard standing placed on the proposed route! Safe Routes to School -Decoy School: - Matthew Steele had looked at the possibility of a more direct route to the school from Milber and Aller. It needed 2 bridges to be built and he was of the opinion that the benefit would not be justified by the cost. Safe Routes to School -Knowles Hill School: - Chris Bittlestone had written to the head teacher but there was no feedback from this letter. The secretary had had an e-mail from a student, Alex Anyia-T and had invited her to attend the NACG meetings as she had an interest in providing better facilities for cyclists but with no success. An attempt will be made to involve a teacher that was present at earlier meetings, Louise Ashton JB NACG Web site: - The Travelwise Officer of DCC has agreed to meet the cost of the domain for 2004. The 49.99 plus VAT will be paid and then reclaimed. GB It was agreed that the NACG site should be linked to other sites like DCC, Haldon Forest Cycling Group etc. The possibilities will be explored. GB Trains: - John Hartley detailed the various contacts he had made and intended to make. South West Trains - he will try again to contact Phil Dominey He was going to meetings on Friday 13th February with Wessex Trains and on Wednesday 18th February in Bristol with First Great Western. JH He had had a meeting with Torbay Council Officers and others relating to train travel in and out of the area. Trowbridge Station has an excellent cycle storage facility and should be copied by other stations. He will get details. JH Haldon: - There is an excellent off road cycle track / bridleway track from the ridge near the top of Telegraph Hill down to Kenton. It is shown as St Andrew's Lane. The bridge across the A380 is due to commence in late 2004 and is an 8 month contract. This will open up many more routes for cyclists to enjoy. Cyclists without lights at night: - The local Police Traffic Management and Road Safety Officers had replied to the message and had contacted the respective District Council Safety Officers with a view to a programme to address the problem. It is not known what they are planning. They will be asked for a progress report. KR Whitpot Mill: - new and improved reflectors have been installed. Teign Estuary Partnership: - Ken Berry attended the last meeting and will continue to attend however little time was devoted to cycling issues. Due to landowner objections it is felt that 2007 is a realistic completion date for the path between Newton Abbot and Teignmouth. One plus point was that he met with a Bishopsteignton Councillor who is very much in favour of the cycle route and he will advise the group via Ken Berry of any relevant information that comes his way Dawlish Warren Road: - Matthew Steele advised that the humps in the road meet the MoT standards. Marsh Road: - The streetlights are still not functioning correctly. This will be checked out. MS Capital Works: - Matthew Steele presented a paper that summarised the status of current and proposed capital works programme that will provide improved facilities for cyclists. Service Area at Drumbridges: - The Secretary had been advised that a planning application had been lodged to develop the wedge shaped area between the roundabout, the A38 and Exeter Cross. The same coe way the NACG was not able to get its message across at these meetings. She had written two letters to the Town Clerk but as of the meeting had not had a reply. It was agreed that the Secretary should speak to Mr Tuck on behalf of the NACG and should expl. A!"#$%NEWTON AREA CYCLE GROUP - 10-02-4 The meeting was held in the Newton Abbot Football Club, Coach Road, Newton Abbot on the evening of Tuesday 10th February 2004. It opened at 7.35 p.m. and closed at 9.30 p.m. Ian Glendinning was in the Chair. Present were: - Ken Berry, Tom Buxton-Smith, Brian Dart, ,Jackie Brodie, Graham Brodie, John Hartley, Matthew Steele and Ken Robertson,. Apologies - There were apologies from Mike Jones and Nonee Bell Welcome: - The Chairman welcomed all present. Cycling on Prescription: - There is a meeting to be held on 26th February to progress this item. E-Mail: - This is still a problem and needs urgent resolution MS/GB/KR Some members of the group receive a message but no attachment. It is not known why this is. In the interim hard copies need to be sent to members. Planning for Cycling in the Newton Abbot Area: - Jackie Brodie had received a letter from Devon County Council that was generally positive in its attitude towards providing cycling facilities at the same time as any major projects are planned. Countywide Complaints Card: - This has still not reached fruition. Robin Bevis is to be asked for the current situation. KR Post meeting note - called him on 18-02-04 and he was out of the office all week - left a message with reception asking that he call back. When it is available it will need plenty of publicity DCC/ALL Newton Town Council sub-Committee Meetings: - Jackie Brodie expressed her disquiet at the way the NACG was not able to get its message across at these meetings. She had written two letters to the Town Clerk but as of the meeting had not had a reply. It was agreed that the Secretary should speak to Mr Tuck on behalf of the NACG and should explain the recent experiences with the Torbay Transportation Sub-Committee. KR Stover Canal Path across Jetty Marsh Nature Reserve: - Tony Watson had replied on behalf of Teignbridge District Council. He had had a meeting with the Local Ranger responsible for the area. Unfortunately he was unable to get agreement for the already unauthorised but regular passage of cyclists across the reserve to be formalised and allowed. The letter pointed out that when the Stover Canal Trust is set up then there could be an opportunity for improving access across the area for all users. John Hartley agreed to talk to the Local Ranger as he has a mutual interest and felt that a compromise was possible. JH Wolborough Church Path and Sherbourne Road: - Matthew Steele told the meeting that the necessary work had been completed and that cycling was permitted along these routes. It was suggested that some old signs (cycling prohibited) had not been removed and new ones (cycling/pedestrian shared on the Wolborough Church Path) put in their place. This will be checked. KR/MS Once sure it is 100% OK then publicity is needed. KR Safe Routes to School - Teign School: - There had been a meeting on Transport issue at the school on Thursday 5th February. It was agreed that the now scattered bike sheds across the site should be located near the Clifford Road Gate and that entrance should be the preferred ones for cyclists to use. There could be a funding issue with this. The inspection of the route to and from Sandygate identified work to be done in the area of the Five Lanes Playing Filed. This needs to be fed into the local Village Cmmunity Travel Plan. MS It is noted that part of the route had had a bus shelter with concrete hard standing placed on the proposed route! Safe Routes to School -Decoy School: - Matthew Steele had looked at the possibility of a more direct route to the school from Milber and Aller. It needed 2 bridges to be built and he was of the opinion that the benefit would not be justified by the cost. Safe Routes to School -Knowles Hill School: - Chris Bittlestone had written to the head teacher but there was no feedback from this letter. The secretary had had an e-mail from a student, Alex Anyia-T and had invited her to attend the NACG meetings as she had an interest in providing better facilities for cyclists but with no success. An attempt will be made to involve a teacher that was present at earlier meetings, Louise Ashton JB NACG Web site: - The Travelwise Officer of DCC has agreed to meet the cost of the domain for 2004. The 49.99 plus VAT will be paid and then reclaimed. GB It was agreed that the NACG site should be linked to other sites like DCC, Haldon Forest Cycling Group etc. The possibilities will be explored. GB Trains: - John Hartley detailed the various contacts he had made and intended to make. South West Trains - he will try again to contact Phil Dominey He was going to meetings on Friday 13th February with Wessex Trains and on Wednesday 18th February in Bristol with First Great Western. JH He had had a meeting with Torbay Council Officers and others relating to train travel in and out of the area. Trowbridge Station has an excellent cycle storage facility and should be copied by other stations. He will get details. JH Haldon: - There is an excellent off road cycle track / bridleway track from the ridge near the top of Telegraph Hill down to Kenton. It is shown as St Andrew's Lane. The bridge across the A380 is due to commence in late 2004 and is an 8 month contract. This will open up many more routes for cyclists to enjoy. Cyclists without lights at night: - The local Police Traffic Management and Road Safety Officers had replied to the message and had contacted the respective District Council Safety Officers with a view to a programme to address the problem. It is not known what they are planning. They will be asked for a progress report. KR Whitpot Mill: - new and improved reflectors have been installed. Teign Estuary Partnership: - Ken Berry attended the last meeting and will continue to attend however little time was devoted to cycling issues. Due to landowner objections it is felt that 2007 is a realistic completion date for the path between Newton Abbot and Teignmouth. One plus point was that he met with a Bishopsteignton Councillor who is very much in favour of the cycle route and he will advise the group via Ken Berry of any relevant information that comes his way Dawlish Warren Road: - Matthew Steele advised that the humps in the road meet the MoT standards. Marsh Road: - The streetlights are still not functioning correctly. This will be checked out. MS Capital Works: - Matthew Steele presented a paper that summarised the status of current and proposed capital works programme that will provide improved facilities for cyclists. Service Area at Drumbridges: - The Secretary had been advised that a planning application had been lodged to develop the wedge shaped area between the roundabout, the A38 and Exeter Cross. The same company had submitted it that had put in and earlier application but then withdrawn. After discussion it was agreed that a formal objection should be made and that the first priority should be that the lot of cyclists passing along the old A38 should not be any worse than it is currently. b9:;;>>>?A0CDDFF0GHIIJKKL$MHN$O0P2P~QRR$ain the recent experiences with the Torbay Transportation Sub-Committee. KR Stover Canal Path across Jetty Marsh Nature Reserve: - Tony Watson had replied on behalf of Teignbridge District Council. He had had a meeting with the Local Ranger responsible for the area. Unfortunately he was unable to get agreement for the already unauthorised but regular passage of cyclists across the reserve to be formalised and allowed. The letter pointed out that when the Stover Canal Trust is set up then there coxb(d()) * * +"+++,,,,l-..~0012N3P366b9$$mpany had submitted it that had put in and earlier application but then withdrawn. After discussion it was agreed that a formal objection should be made. As the old A38 is part of the cycle route linking Newton Abbot and Bovey Tracey and also Plymouth and Exeter the first priority should be that the lot of cyclists passing in front of the site should not be any worse than it is currently. The second priority should be to propose that if the development is allowed then the developers should make a substantial contribution via a 106 agreement to the cost of placing a bridge across the A30 at Heathfield Cross. The secretary will send in a letter of objection. KR National Bike Week: - It was agreed that the NACG would not organise any event but would find out and publicise what the clubs in the area are proposing to put on. They will be asked for details. KR A380, Cleaning Schedule: - There was concern that the cycle path along the A380 was filling with debris and it was not being removed sufficiently often. This was especially the case in the area of Aller Quarry and under the conifers opposite the quarry. Teignbridge DC will be asked to ensure that this section is kept clean. KR Matthew Steele replacement: - Matthew Steele told the meeting uld be an opportunity for improving access across the area for all users. John Hartley agreed to talk to the Local Ranger as he has a mutual interest and felt that a compromise was possible. JH Wolborough Church Path and Sherbourne Road: - Matthew Steele told the meeting that the necessary work had been completed and that cycling was permitted along these routes. It was suggested that some old signs (cycling prohibited) had not been removed and new ones (cycling/pedestrian shared on the Wolborough Church Path) put in their place. This will be checked. KR/MS Once sure it is 100% OK then publicity is needed. KR Safe Routes to School - Teign School: - There had been a meeting on Transport issue at the school on Thursday 5th February. It was agreed that the now scattered bike sheds across the site should be located near the Clifford Road Gate and that entrance should be the preferred ones for cyclists to use. There could be a funding issue with this. The inspection of the route to and from Sandygate identified work to be done in the area of the Five Lanes Playing Filed. This needs to be fed into the local Village Cmmunity Travel Plan. MS It is noted that part of the route had had a bus shelter with concrete hard standing placed on the proposed route! Safe Routes to School -Decoy School: - Matthew Steele had looked at the possibility of a more direct route to the school from Milber and Aller. It needed 2 bridges to be built and he was of the opinion that the benefit would not be justified by the cost. Safe Routes to School -Knowles Hill School: - Chris Bittlestone had written to the head teacher but there was no feedback from this letter. The secretary had had an e-mail from a student, Alex Anyia-T and had invited her to attend the NACG meetings as she had an interest in providing better facilities for cyclists but with no success. An attempt will be made to involve a teacher that was present at earlier meetings, Louise Ashton JB NACG Web site: - The Travelwise Officer of DCC has agreed to meet the cost of the domain for 2004. The 49.99 plus VAT will be paid and then reclaimed. GB It was agreed that the NACG site should be linked to other sites like DCC, Haldon Forest Cycling Group etc. The possibilities will be explored. GB Tra. A!"#$%NEWTON AREA CYCLE GROUP - 10-02-4 The meeting was held in the Newton Abbot Football Club, Coach Road, Newton Abbot on the evening of Tuesday 10th February 2004. It opened at 7.35 p.m. and closed at 9.30 p.m. Ian Glendinning was in the Chair. Present were: - Ken Berry, Tom Buxton-Smith, Brian Dart, ,Jackie Brodie, Graham Brodie, John Hartley, Matthew Steele and Ken Robertson,. Apologies - There were apologies from Mike Jones and Nonee Bell Welcome: - The Chairman welcomed all present. Cycling on Prescription: - There is a meeting to be held on 26th February to progress this item. E-Mail: - This is still a problem and needs urgent resolution MS/GB/KR Some members of the group receive a message but no attachment. It is not known why this is. In the interim hard copies need to be sent to members. Planning for Cycling in the Newton Abbot Area: - Jackie Brodie had received a letter from Devon County Council that was generally positive in its attitude towards providing cycling ins: - John Hartley detailed the various contacts he had made and intended to make. South West Trains - he will try again to contact Phil Dominey He was going to meetings on Friday 13th February with Wessex Trains and on Wednesday 18th February in Bristol that he was leaving his current employment during March. No replacement has been put in place. Tony Watson who works for Teignbridge DC had been asked to take over but this had been turned down. This was on the basis that DCC were the spending authority aRDUFUUUWYYFZHZ [ [n\p\@`bfdfgg h h i"iiijjjjlk$$nd also when TDC had come up with schemes for cyclists they had been told that it was not their place to do so. The NACG endorsed this rejection and felt that DCC should honour its commitment to the group by appointing an engineer from within the Newton Abbot LASG. The Secretary was asked to write to Robin Bevis asking him to do his utmost to get a suitable placement organised KR Date of next meeting: - Tuesday 6th April at the 4iiij2jjjZkjkllnnoo>qLqPqqtttuyyyyz|||||D}*.^l|ˆBF*.2>>BF^ʓH\ &.p>FjТԢڢ| <VZxCJH*OJQJ5CJOJQJ5>*CJOJQJ CJOJQJXlkll~nnopNqPqttbwxyy|||}00Ĉ$Ĉ$H$02~DFȓʓFH npΠDFآ$facilities at the same time as any major projects are planned. Countywide Complaints Card: - This has still not reached fruition. Robin Bevis is to be asked for the current situation. KR Post meeting note - called him on 18-02-04 and hewith First Great Western. JH He had had a meeting with Torbay Council Officers and others relating to train travel in and out of the area. Trowbridge Station has an excellent cycle storage facility and should be copied by other stations. He will get details. JH Haldon: - There is an excellent off road cycle track / bridleway track from the ridge near the top of Telegraph Hill down to Kenton. It is shown as St Andrew's Lane. The bridge across the A380 is due to commence in late 2004 and is was out of the office all week - left a message with reception asking that he call back. When it is available it will need plenty of publicity DCC/ALL Newton Town Council sub-Committee Meetings: - Jackie Brodie expressed her disquiet at th an 8 month contract. This will open up many more routes for cyclists to enjoy. Cyclists without lights at night: - The local Police Traffic Management and Road Safety Officers had replied to the message and had contacted the respective District Council Safety Officers with a view to a programme to address the problem. It is not known what they are planning. They will be asked for a progress report. KR Whitpot Mill: - new and improved reflectors have been installed. Teign Estuary Partnership: - Ken Berry attended the last meeting and will continue to attend however little time was devoted to cycling issues. Due to landowner objections it is felt that 2007 is a realistic completion date for the path between Newton Abbot and Teignmouth. One plus point was that he met with a Bishopsteignton Councillor who is very much in favour of the cycle route and he will advise the group via Ken Berry of any relevant information that comes his way Dawlish Warren Road: - Matthew Steele advised that the humps in the road meet the MoT standards. Marsh Road: - The streetlights are still not functioning correctly. This will be checked out. MS Capital Works: - Matthew Steele presented a paper that summarised the status of current and proposed capital works programme that will provide improved facilities for cyclists. Service Area at Drumbridges: - The Secretary had been advised that a planning application had been lodged to develop the wedge shaped area between the roundabout, the A38 and Exeter Cross. The same coe way the NACG was not able to get its message across at these meetings. She had written two letters to the Town Clerk but as of the meeting had not had a reply. It was agreed that the Secretary should speak to Mr Tuck on behalf of the NACG and should explain the recent experiences with the Torbay Transportation Sub-Committee. KR Stover Canal Path across Jetty Marsh Nature Reserve: - Tony Watson had replied on behalf of Teignbridge District Council. He had had a meeting with the Local Ranger responsible for the area. Unfortunately he was unable to get agreement for the already unauthorised but regular passage of cyclists across the reserve to be formalised and allowed. The letter pointed out that when the Stover Canal Trust is set up then there could be an opportunity for improving access across the area for all users. John Hartley agreed to talk to the Local Ranger as he has a mutual interest and felt that a compromise was possible. JH Wolborough Church Path and Sherbourne Road: - Matthew Steele told the meeting that the necessary work had been completed and that cycling was permitted along these routes. It was suggested that some old signs (cycling prohibited) had not been removed and new ones (cycling/pedestrian shared on the Wolborough Church Path) put in their place. This will be checked. KR/MS Once sure it is 100% OK then publicity is needed. KR Safe Routes to School - Teign School: - There had been a meeting on Transport issue at the school on Thursday 5th February. It was agreed that the now scattered bike sheds across the site should be located near the Clifford Road Gate and that entrance should be the preferred ones for cyclists to use. There could be a funding issue with this. The inspection of the route to and from S Cycling on Prescription: - There is a meeting to be held on 26th February to progress this item. E-Mail: - This is still a problem and needs urgent resolution MS/GB/KR Some members of the group receive a message but no attachment. It is not known why this is. In the interim hard copies need to be sent to members. Planning for Cycling in the Newton Abbot Area: - Jackie Brodie had received a letter from Devon County Council that was generally positive in its attitude towards providing cycling facilities at the same time as any major projects are planned. Countywide Complaints Card: - This has still not reached fruition. Robin Bevis is to be asked for the current situation. KR Post meeting note - called him on 18-02-04 and he was out of the office all week - left a message with reception asking that he call back. When it is available it will need plenty of publicity DCC/ALL Newton Town Council sub-Committee Meetings: - Jackie Brodie expressed her disquiet at thandygate identified work to be done in the area of the Five Lanes Playing Filed. This needs to be fed into the local Village Cmmunity Travel Plan. MS It is noted that part of the route had had a bus shelter with concrete hard standing placed on the proposed route! Safe Routes to School -Decoy School: - Matthew Steele had looked at the possibility of a more direct route to the school from Milber and Aller. It needed 2 bridges to be built and he was of the opinion that the benefit would not be justified by the cost. Safe Routes to School -Knowles Hill School: - Chris Bittlestone had written to the head teacher but there was no feedback from this letter. The secretary had had an e-mail from a student, Alex Anyia-T and had invited her to attend the NACG meetings as she had an interest in providing better facilities for cyclists but with no success. An attempt will be made to involve a teacher that was present at earlier meetings, Louise Ashton JB NACG Web site: - The Travelwise Officer of DCC has agreed to meet the cost of the domain for 2004. The 49.99 plus VAT will be paid and then reclaimed. GB It was agreed that the NACG site should be linked to other sites like DCC, Haldon Forest Cycling Group etc. The possibilities will be explored. GB Trampany had submitted it that had put in and earlier application but then withdrawn. After discussion it was agreed that a formal objection should be made. As the old A38 is part of the cycle route linking Newton Abbot and Bovey Tracey and also Plymouth and Exeter the first priority should be that the lot of cyclists passing in front of the site should not be any worse than it is currently. The second priority should be to propose that if the development is allowed then the developers should make a substantial contribution via a 106 agreement to the cost of placing a bridge across the A30 at Heathfield Cross. The secretary will send in a letter of objection. KR National Bike Week: - It was agreed that the NACG would not organise any event but would find out and publicise what the clubs in the area are proposing to put on. They will be asked for details. KR A380, Cleaning Schedule: - There was concern that the cycle path along the A380 was filling with debris and it was not being removed sufficiently often. This was especially the case in the area of Aller Quarry and under the conifers opposite the quarry. Teignbridge DC will be asked to ensure that this section is kept clean. KR Matthew Steele replacement: - Matthew Steele told the meeting that he was leaving his current employment during March. No replacement has been put in place. Tony Watson who works for Teignbridge DC had been asked to take over but this had been turned down. This was on the basis that DCC were the spending authority and also when TDC had come up with schemes for cyclists they had been told that it was not their place to do so. The NACG endorsed this rejection and felt that DCC should honour its commitment to the group by appointing an engineer from within the Newton Abbot LASG. The Secretary was asked to write to Robin Bevis asking him to do his utmost to get a suitable placement organised KR Date of next meeting: - Tuesday 6th April at the Newton Abbot Football Club, Coach Road, Newton Abbot starting at 7.30 p.m. xb "42ȸԸZj>LPzD*.^l|BF*.2>>BF^H\ &.p>Fj| <V5CJOJQJ CJOJQJ5>*CJOJQJ[NPb00$H$0$02~DFFH npDF $e way the NACG was not able to get its message across at these meetings. She had written two letters to the Town Clerk but as of the meeting had not had a reply. It was agreed that the Secretary should speak to Mr Tuck on behalf of the NACG and should explain the recent experiences with the Torbay Transportation Sub-Committee. KR Stover Canal Path across Jetty Marsh Nature Reserve: - Tony Watson had replied on behalf of Teignbridge District Council. He had had a meeting with the Local Ranger respآڢxbdµĵ "Ƹȸl~N$$ins: - John Hartley detailed the various contacts he had made and intended to make. South West Trains - he will try again to contact Phil Dominey He was going to meetings on Friday 13th February with Wessex Trains and on Wednesday 18th February in Bristol with First Great Western. JH He had had a meeting with Torbay Council Officers and others relating to train travel in and out of the area. Trowbridge Station has an excellent cycle storage facility and should be copied by other stations. He will get details. JH Haldon: - There is an excellent off road cycle track / bridleway track from the ridge near the top of Telegraph Hill down to Kenton. It is shown as St Andrew's Lane. The bridge across the A380 is due to commence in late 2004 and is an 8 month contract. This will open up many more routes for cyclists to enjoy. Cyclists without lights at night: - The local Police Traffic Management and Road Safety Officers had replied to the message and had contacted the respective District Council Safety Officers with a view to a programme to address the problem. It is not known what they are planning. They will be asked for a progress report. KR Whitpot Mill: - new and improved reflectors have been installed. Teign Estuary Partnership: - Ken Berry attended the last meeting and will continue to attend however little time was devoted to cycling issues. Due to landowner objections it is felt that 2007 is a realistic completion date for the path between Newton Abbot and Teignmouth. One plusonsible for the area. Unfortunately he was unable to get agreement for the already unauthorised but regular passage of cyclists across the reserve to be formalised and allowed. The letter pointed out that when the Stover Canal Trust is set up then there could be an opportunity for improving access across the area for all users. John Hartley agreed to talk to the Local Ranger as he has a mutual interest and felt that a compromise was possible. JH Wolborough Church Path and Sherbourne Road: - Matthew Steele told the meeting that the necessary work had been completed and that cycling was permitted along these routes. It was suggested that some old signs (cycling prohibited) had not been removed and new ones (cycling/pedestrian shared on the Wolborough Church Path) put in their place. This will be checked. KR/MS Once sure it is 100% OK then publicity is needed. KR Safe Routes to School - Teign School: - There had been a meeting on Transport issue at the school on Thursday 5th February. It was agreed that the now scattered bike sheds across the site should be located near the Clifford Road Gate and that entrance should be the preferred ones for cyclists to use. There could be a funding issue with this. The inspection of the route to and from Sandygate identified work to be done in the area of the Five Lanes Playing Filed. This needs to be fed into the local Village Cmmunity Travel Plan. MS It is noted that part of the route had had a bus shelter with concrete hard standing placed on the proposed route! Safe Routes to School -Decoy School: - Matthew Steele had looked at the possibility of a more direct route to the school from Milber and Aller. It needed 2 bridges to be built and he was of the opinion that the benefit would not be justified by the cost. Safe Routes to School -Knowles Hill School: - Chris Bittlestone had written to the head teacher but there was no feedback from this letter. The secretary had had an e-mail from a student, Alex Anyia-T and had invited her to attend the NACG meetings as she had an interest in providing better facilities for cyclists but with no success. An attempt will be made to involve a teacher that was present at earlier meetings, Louise Ashton JB NACG Web site: - The Travelwise Officer of DCC has agreed to mOh+'0   < H T `lt|"NEWTON AREA CYCLE GROUP - 10-02-4osEWT ROBERTSONA OBENormalO ROBERTSONA 15EMicrosoft Word 8.0R@@%@67@j`m ՜.+,D՜.+,L hp|  NDQ'  "NEWTON AREA CYCLE GROUP - 10-02-4 Title 6> _PID_GUIDAN{E16BED04-0CC6-4353-95E6-83C68F2A07B6}  npΎDFؐڐ <>jZ\^tvx&`#$ $ & F h$АԐڐ| <VZ BDFRTVXZ^`lnprtz|lnpr JLz|~ JLz|~@BDF0JmH0J j0JU5CJCJCJH*OJQJ5>*CJOJQJ CJOJQJ5CJOJQJ7eet the cost of the domain for 2004. The 49.99 plus VAT will be paid and then reclaimed. GB It was agreed that the NACG site should be linked to other sites like DCC, Haldon Forest Cycling Group etc. The possibilities will be explored. GB Trains: - John Hartley detailed the various contacts he had made and intended to make. South West Trains - he will try again to contact Phil Dominey He was going to meetings on Friday 13th February with Wessex Trains and on Wednesday 18th February in Bristol with First Great Western. JH He had had a meeting with Torbay Council Officers and others relating to train travel in and out of the area. Trowbridge Station has an excellent cycle storage facility and should be copied by other stations. He will get details. JH Haldon: - There is an excellent off road cycle track / bridleway track from the ridge near the top of Telegraph Hill down to Kenton. It is shown as St Andrew's Lane. The bridge across the A380 is due to commence in late 2004 and is point was that he met with a Bishopsteignton Councillor who is very much in favour of the cycle route and he will advise the group via Ken Berry of any relevant information that comes his way Dawlish Warren Road: - Matthew Steele advised that the humps in the road meet the MoT standards. Marsh Road: - The streetlights are still not functioning correctly. This will be checked out. MS Capital Works: - Matthew Steele presented a paper that summarised the status of current and proposed capital works programme that will provide improved facilities for cyclists. Service Area at Drumbridges: - The Secretary had been advised that a planning application had been lodged to develop the wedge shaped area between the roundabout, the A38 and Exeter Cross. The same company had submitted it that had put in and earlier application but then withdrawn. After discussion it was agreed that a formal objection should be made. As the old A38 is part of the cycle route linking Newton Abbot and Bovey Tracey and also Plymouth and Exeter the first priority should be that the lot of cyclists passing in front of the site should not be any worse than it is currently. The second priority should be to propose that if the development is allowed then the developers should make a substantial contribution via a 106 agreement to the cost of placing a bridge across the A30 at Heathfield Cross. The secretary will send in a letter of objection. KR National Bike Week: - It was agreed that the NACG would not organise any event but would find out and publicise what the clubs in the area are proposing to put on. They will be asked for details. KR A380, Cleaning Schedule: - There was concern that the cycle path along the A380 was filling with debris and it was not being removed sufficiently often. This was especially the case in the area of Aller Quarry and under the conifers opposite the quarry. Teignbridge DC will be asked to ensure that this section is kept clean. KR Matthew Steele replacement: - Matthew Steele told the meeting that he was leaving his current employment during March. No replacement has been put in place. Tony Watson who works for Teignbridge DC had been asked to take over but this had been turned down. This was on the basis that DCC were the spending authority and also when TDC had come up with schemes for cyclists they had been told that it was not their place to do so. The NACG endorsed this rejection and felt that DCC should honour its commitment to the group by appointing an engineer from within the Newton Abbot LASG. The Secretary was asked to write to Robin Bevis asking him to do his utmost to get a suitable placement organised KR Date of next meeting: - Tuesday 6th April at the Newton Abbot Football Club, Coach Road, Newton Abbot starting at 7.30 p.m. bd   "l   ~   NPb$$0  ""0#$%%&''($)H*$+0,2,~-..D1F11$. A!"#$%: - Tuesday 20 The main item on the agenda will be  How to promote the NACG to a wider audience? Please come along with all your positive ideas.mproved facilities for cyclists  See attached paper In particular he detailed: - The proposed first stage of a route linking Newton Abbot with Ipplepen. This will take cyclists between Bakers Park and Cemetery Cross Roundabout without having to ride on thАԐڐ| <VZ BDFRTVXZ^`lnprtz|lnpr JLz|~ JLz|~@BDFBDFH0JmH0J j0JU5CJCJCJH*OJQJ5>*CJOJQJ CJOJQJ5CJOJQJLPzD*. ^ "l"|%%%%&&'''(B*F**,.,2,>,..>1B1F1^11155H6\67 7&7.7p88>?F?j?@@@A|CC5CJOJQJ5>*CJOJQJ CJOJQJCJH*OJQJX an 8 month contract. This will open up many more routes for cyclists to enjoy. Cyclists without lights at night: - The local Police Traffic Management and Road Safety Officers had replied to the message and had contacted the respective District Council Safety Officers with a view to a programme to address the problem. It is not known what they are planning. They will be asked for a progress report. KR Whitpot Mill: - new and improved reflectors have been installed. Teign Estuary Partnership: - Ken Berry attended the last meeting and will continue to attend however little time was devoted to cycling issues. Due to landowner objections it is felt that 2007 is a realistic completion date for the path between Newton Abbot and Teignmouth. One plus point was that he met with a Bishopsteignton Councillor who is very much in favour of the cycle route and he will advise the group via Ken Berry of any relevant information that comes his way Dawlish Warren Road: - Matthew Steele advised that the humps in the road meet the MoT standards. Marsh Road: - The streetlights are still not functioning correctly. This will be checked out. MS Capital Works: - Matthew Steele presented a paper that summarised the status of current and proposed capital works programme that will provide improved facilities for cyclists. Service Area at Drumbridges: - The Secretary had been advised that a planning application had been lodged to develop the wedge shaped area between the roundabout, the A38 and Exeter Cross. The same company had submitted it that had put in and earlier application but then withdrawn. After discussion it was agreed that a formal objection should be made. As the old A38 is part of the cycle route linking Newton Abbot and Bovey Tracey and also Plymouth and xzp  L԰z|  LԲz|DF & F h & Fs: - te the NACG to a wider audience The future running of the NACG now that Matthew Steele has left DCC The response to the proposals to develop the clay pits area North of Kingsteignton 3 e narrow and  cycle unfriendly A381. It is planned to carry out the wotrk in 2004/5. Concern was expressed about a section of path laid in 2003 near the 2 Mile Oak. The surface dressing used is not of a standard that is suitable for cyclists  it is too coarse. 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The second priority should be to propose that if the development is allowed then the developers should make a substantial contribution via a 106 agreement to the cost of placing a bridge across the A30 at Heathfield Cross. The secretary will send in a letter of objection. KR National Bike Week: - It was agreed that the NACG would not organise any event but would find out and publicise what the clubs in the area are proposing to put on. They will be asked for details. KR A380, Cleaning Schedule: - There was concern that the cycle path along the A380 was filling with debris and it was not being removed sufficiently often. This was especially the case in the area of Aller Quarry and under the conifers opposite the quarry. Teignbridge DC will be asked to ensure that this section is kept clean. KR Matthew Steele replacement: - Matthew Steele told the meeting that he was leaving his current employment during March. No replacement has been put in place. 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